e85 and map 7 g5 iso

FRMTL2_335i · 05-17-2013, 09:05 AM

what do you guys think?
should i run it or should i NOT?

i filled the tank up with 9 gallons of 93 and 7 gallons of e85, so about 43% e85.
i ran it on map 7 and HOLY difference between 40% e85 n map 5 fully adjusted!

with the same fuel combo i hit about 16-17psi on map 5, 18-19 on map 7.
i only did a few pulls on map 7 so far but it feels sooooo good. i have boost safe set up at 19.5. running ISO 20

mrbillytalent · 05-17-2013, 09:42 AM

Map 7 requires 100 octane at least if I'm correct. I'm not sure that e85 blend will get you there. I doubt the DME would let you knock due to your lower octane. Post logs of a map 7 run, I may try this out sometime.

zeel · 05-17-2013, 09:44 AM

I think for g5iso map7 and e85, you should run upgraded lpfp, bms/cobb flash and somewhere around e60. At least that is what my setup likes.

FRMTL2_335i · 05-17-2013, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mrbillytalent

Map 7 requires 100 octane at least if I'm correct. I'm not sure that e85 blend will get you there. I doubt the DME would let you knock due to your lower octane. Post logs of a map 7 run, I may try this out sometime.

I will run some logs tonight!

FRMTL2_335i · 05-17-2013, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by zeel

I think for g5iso map7 and e85, you should run upgraded lpfp, bms/cobb flash and somewhere around e60. At least that is what my setup likes.

im waiting to get my e85 walbro pump in the mail. should be here by monday!

once im all set up im gonna do the bms flash but i want to do 100% e85

what power are you making and what are your mods?

FRMTL2_335i · 05-17-2013, 10:16 AM

what blows my mind is that my friend with a few bolt ons kept up with me, i only got him by a fender

my mods: jb4 iso-20, vrsf 3" catless dps, full cpe exhaust (no cats), cyba scoops, bms dci, aa cp and bov, e40 and 93 on map 5.

his mods: vrsf 7" fmic, bms dci, iso-17 running 33% e85 and 93, no exhaust, no dps, and idk what kind of bov/cp he has. and he has over 100k miles.

V8bait · 05-17-2013, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by FRMTL2_335i

what do you guys think?
should i run it or should i NOT?

i filled the tank up with 9 gallons of 93 and 7 gallons of e85, so about 43% e85.
i ran it on map 7 and HOLY difference between 40% e85 n map 5 fully adjusted!

with the same fuel combo i hit about 16-17psi on map 5, 18-19 on map 7.
i only did a few pulls on map 7 so far but it feels sooooo good. i have boost safe set up at 19.5. running ISO 20

If you have intake/dp's/intercooler and have e50 with 93 and no fueling issues/good afr, you should be just fine. Biggest issue is going to be fueling that much power on e85 without fuel pumps and the backend tables adjusted somehow.

Stucks · 05-17-2013, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by FRMTL2_335i

what power are you making and what are your mods?

zeel and i have the exact same setup. He dyno'd 425whp and 455wtq. I dyno'd 421whp and 457wtq. we both run map 7 with e60 mix of e85/93.

idrift4wd · 05-17-2013, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Stucks

zeel and i have the exact same setup. He dyno'd 425whp and 455wtq. I dyno'd 421whp and 457wtq. we both run map 7 with e60 mix of e85/93.

nice numbers!

jb4 ftw

Stucks · 05-17-2013, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by idrift4wd

nice numbers!

Thanks, zeels car is very impressive and managed an 11.7 @ 123.9 mph. I'd imagine I am somehwere close to that, but I have yet to go to the track this season.

boostaholic786 · 05-17-2013, 03:02 PM

I'm wondering the exact same thing if I can run on map 7 but I fill right at a quarter tank 6.5 gallons E85 and about 6 gallons 93. Have not plugged it into the E85 calculator yet to find out exactly or close to what I'm really running....But I dont think it would hurt anything since the JB4 has so many failsafes its almost impossible for you to blow something up when using the JB4 G5 ISO.... I also have the BMS backend flash so I think map 7 should be fine but want to confirm with the community and Terry if I should even try it out or not...

enrita · 05-17-2013, 03:08 PM

U need meth as well with over e50 snd walbro pump. Map 7 is very strong

Stucks · 05-17-2013, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by enrita

U need meth as well with over e50 snd walbro pump. Map 7 is very strong

Not true if colder temps below 70F are present. Zeel and I both dont run meth and with the upgraded walboro pump, bms flash, and e60 experiance no timing drops for such an aggressive map.

I will say this though, test the e85 stations you go to. There are some in our area that are really closer to e70. The one we go to is close to e85 as can be.

enrita · 05-17-2013, 04:48 PM

Maybe on stock turbos is fine .. On upgraded no game for me without meth.

enrita · 05-18-2013, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Stucks

Not true if colder temps below 70F are present. Zeel and I both dont run meth and with the upgraded walboro pump, bms flash, and e60 experiance no timing drops for such an aggressive map.

I will say this though, test the e85 stations you go to. There are some in our area that are really closer to e70. The one we go to is close to e85 as can be.

Which flash are you running by the way?

Stucks · 05-18-2013, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by enrita

Which flash are you running by the way?

bms e85 back end flash via cobb ap

robc1976 · 05-18-2013, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Stucks

Not true if colder temps below 70F are present. Zeel and I both dont run meth and with the upgraded walboro pump, bms flash, and e60 experiance no timing drops for such an aggressive map.

I will say this though, test the e85 stations you go to. There are some in our area that are really closer to e70. The one we go to is close to e85 as can be.

I ran map 7 with 70% E85 and meth and Map 3 still pulls much harder.

FRMTL2_335i · 05-28-2013, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Stucks

zeel and i have the exact same setup. He dyno'd 425whp and 455wtq. I dyno'd 421whp and 457wtq. we both run map 7 with e60 mix of e85/93.

Are you running bms flash?

I just dyno my car on sunday,

Mustang dyno
Map 5 50% e85 n 93 WITH WALBRO PUMP
I made 386whp and 420wtq

Switched to map 7
And I made 384whp and 446wtq!!!

This was without my front mount too.

Stucks · 05-28-2013, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FRMTL2_335i

Are you running bms flash?

yup

aflatau · 05-29-2013, 07:17 AM

I did a dyno pull comparing Map 5 vs Map 7 with the e85 mixes.. Map 5 is better. Map 7 was about 20 or so less hp then Map 5.

mrbillytalent · 05-29-2013, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by aflatau

I did a dyno pull comparing Map 5 vs Map 7 with the e85 mixes.. Map 5 is better. Map 7 was about 20 or so less hp then Map 5.

This is how I figured it'd work out

FRMTL2_335i · 05-29-2013, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mrbillytalent

This is how I figured it'd work out

Not in my case, I made an extra 26wtq!!!

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FRMTL2_335i Major 86 Rep 1,071 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: ohio iTrader: (1)	e85 and map 7 g5 iso what do you guys think? should i run it or should i NOT? i filled the tank up with 9 gallons of 93 and 7 gallons of e85, so about 43% e85. i ran it on map 7 and HOLY difference between 40% e85 n map 5 fully adjusted! with the same fuel combo i hit about 16-17psi on map 5, 18-19 on map 7. i only did a few pulls on map 7 so far but it feels sooooo good. i have boost safe set up at 19.5. running ISO 20
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mrbillytalent Lieutenant 17 Rep 575 Posts Drives: '99 e46 323i & '07 e90 335i Join Date: May 2012 Location: Toledo OH iTrader: (1)	Map 7 requires 100 octane at least if I'm correct. I'm not sure that e85 blend will get you there. I doubt the DME would let you knock due to your lower octane. Post logs of a map 7 run, I may try this out sometime.
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zeel Lieutenant 14 Rep 579 Posts Drives: 08 AW e92 335i Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: MD/NOVA/DC iTrader: (2) Garage List 2008 bmw e92 335i [7.34]	I think for g5iso map7 and e85, you should run upgraded lpfp, bms/cobb flash and somewhere around e60. At least that is what my setup likes. __________________ 11.76 @ 124mph (123.9) full weight/street tires/no meth.
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FRMTL2_335i Major 86 Rep 1,071 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: ohio iTrader: (1)	what blows my mind is that my friend with a few bolt ons kept up with me, i only got him by a fender my mods: jb4 iso-20, vrsf 3" catless dps, full cpe exhaust (no cats), cyba scoops, bms dci, aa cp and bov, e40 and 93 on map 5. his mods: vrsf 7" fmic, bms dci, iso-17 running 33% e85 and 93, no exhaust, no dps, and idk what kind of bov/cp he has. and he has over 100k miles.
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boostaholic786 Captain 41 Rep 622 Posts Drives: E92 N54 with MHD Custom flash Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Plano TX iTrader: (0)	I'm wondering the exact same thing if I can run on map 7 but I fill right at a quarter tank 6.5 gallons E85 and about 6 gallons 93. Have not plugged it into the E85 calculator yet to find out exactly or close to what I'm really running....But I dont think it would hurt anything since the JB4 has so many failsafes its almost impossible for you to blow something up when using the JB4 G5 ISO.... I also have the BMS backend flash so I think map 7 should be fine but want to confirm with the community and Terry if I should even try it out or not... __________________ [SIZE="2"]Crimson Red E92 335i M-sport 6-speed with MHD custom stage 2+ flash only , 40% E85/93 mix,+ HRE P40S wheels, KW Clubsport, M3 sways,+BMW performance CF Mirrors, BMW Performance CF deck lid spoiler,+ CF interior trim, p3 vent boost gauge,+ LUX angel eyes (11.73@124mph on street tires)
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enrita Major General 170 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	U need meth as well with over e50 snd walbro pump. Map 7 is very strong
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aflatau First Lieutenant 81 Rep 340 Posts Drives: XM Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Buffalo, NY iTrader: (1)	I did a dyno pull comparing Map 5 vs Map 7 with the e85 mixes.. Map 5 is better. Map 7 was about 20 or so less hp then Map 5. __________________ 24 XM(Current) 22 X540i(Sold) 21 M5 Comp(Sold) 07 Single Turbo 335i(one of the first, sold)
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